I want ya'll to see this.

OH KNOW THEY KNOW THE TRUTH!!!!

There's not much we can do when weak ass losers resort to this.

It's just another form of whining and crim rip has every reason to try so hard.
he lost severly and we crushed his clan hehehe.

It will be sorted out, no skin of our noses

Since TRD sent me a message laughing at the same thing,I'd like to point out it's been done to him more than once hahaha.
http://world8.monstersgame.co.uk/index.php?ac=showuser&showuserid=190003405

Resort to what? none of the things are lies lol. So resort to the truth? Why yes,

Huh? u don't make sense...sorry, i don't speak 'dumbass'

i said i did not lie. Maybe you just can't read lmfao

maybe not lies for u....but the truth is so diffrent from how u see it crim.Tell u what...have a look..we started at the same time and u were given, later, a great account.Let's look were it's at now..hmm..ur account is going nowhere and your clan is more than dead...u tell me?we're still super active with great accounts...hmmmwho won

hmm lets see, you tryed to ban me (aww that ddnt work) but n e wayz. i play daily and so does Candi, we are getting some new people in soon. Umm lets see i quit for months AND im still right behind you in level. I have MORE LOOT AND GG and you still have better stats **Cough** YOUR ACCOUNT SUX **Cough** **Cough** Premmie Abuse **Cough**

*sigh* it seems once again i must intercede here for the sake of the truth.Hehehe said

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Resort to what? none of the things are lies lol. So resort to the truth? Why yes,

Some of the things displayed on that page are lies,in particular the claim that ESF have deleted their clan 10 times,its simply preposterous.As i have observed they only just recently deleted their original clan and made a new one.

As for your claims over accounts,well i shall adress that in a seperate post.


~paul mystrey the great

Now lets have a look at who has the better account then.
The attributes of [[ESF]] Stryker:

Character level:	Level 64
Strength:	(127)
Defence:	(127)
Agility:	(130)
Stamina:	(130)
Dexterity:	(50)

Most good players like to try and keep their attributes to double their level.Here Stryker has more or less done this the 2 just below being no serious problem.

Character level:	Level 62
Strength:	(117)
Defence:	(111)
Agility:	(116)
Stamina:	(120)
Dexterity:	(27)

Oh dear the same cannot be said of Criminal Rip,none of his are even close to double.
The ancestral site statistics of [[ESF]] Stryker

Attempted challenges:	27
Successful challenges:	26
Failed challenges:	1

The ancestral site statistics of [Vip]CriminalRip

Attempted challenges:	19
Successful challenges:	17
Failed challenges:	2

I think that the number of successful ancestral challenges speak for themselves.

As for level,while a higher level does give the advantage of access to better weapons/armour etc.Generally that does not give much advantage if the acccount in question is weak.

As for gold gains,i have seen plenty of accounts with high gold gains but are generally very weak for their level and many with low gold gains and are very strong and NO it is not due to premium abuse either.Its not how much gold you gain that counts but how you mange it that makes the difference and leaking it all over the place doesn't help does it Crim?

Gold lost:

30,348.00

besides who are you to talk of gold gains since most of the gains on your account were made BEFORE you got it.

~paul mystrey the great

Hmmm Crim..clever of u to get around the ban.

Reason for it?
You're boring me beyond words now.

If you're not man enough to go by your own name and resorting to abusing ppl's bite link, then there's really nothing more i have to say to you.

If i have to make the forum private again, i will.

We require honest intelligent posts and not whining posts from sore losers who cannot play fair.

You lost to us on more than one occasion and on more than one level.

You're old news and we don't even bother with u, unless it's to loot you lol.

You say u are getting new playrs-
=hehehe COOL=-
EsF will welcome them with open arms

Funny though, your last message begged me to take ur clans name/and ur's off our page/ you said vip was dead and inactive and was getting deleted (?) ahahaha

i stopped replying to u ages ago cos of ur whinning so i did not respond,obviously..we have to wipe the floor with u again..expect us soon
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Thanks, paul mystrey the great!
It's nice to see ppl who don't get fooled so easily.

I've pointed out the same things over and over again..we're not dealing with a smart person..but a whining sore loser who can't play, fair or otherwise lmao

Thanks for ur honesty and openess
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We have deleted the old Esf for a number of reasons.
1st..to deal with cowardly higher levels who constantly would create a clan and go to war...i figured..no guts so no glory.

They don't deserve that! Not the way they keep playing and fighting.

So the deletion enabled us to condensce more and not be constaly dealing with clans , namely cdc and trd's clan, that don't play or fight fair..always looking to get the upper hand b4 going to war.

In addition..the delletion of esf means the new reborn esf can go to war again

Thank you Stryker,i just get tired of the constant whining,lies,omissions and obfuscations of these people its tiresome.As i have said before in previous visits here my only interest is in the truth.

I only hope that these whiners are on UK10 whenever it is opened then they shall see what Paul Mystrey is really capable of,no longer will i have to be a spectator.

Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to air my opinion here.

~paul mystrey the great

Sore loser? Hah from what? as i see from your old clan page We beat you and you did like you did with CDC and remade the clan.

And Paul, its easy to double your stats when you activate years of premmie at 1 times. As i have more Loot/More GG than him and he has higher stats. Im sorry but i have a life and i dont spend money on here if i dont need to. 1 premmie a month and thats all. No skill fo you what so eva

k, ima say str8 out right now. All i want is for you to take my name and clan name off your page, as you see you have 0 wars atm. And i don't "Whine" as this is my 1st time asking. I let you advertise your opinion thats why i dont tell admins to make u cut up my name. If u take it off i'll delete the account. I just dont want you thinkin that you can post w/e you want on your page w/o posting the whole truth. and i dont want you to try to insult me or anything because i only take insults serious when there done face to face. Pm me ig if u want to actualy talk about this cuz im not coming on your forum anymore so you don't have to make it "Private".

Wow...u need to lay off the Pot :PIt's affecting ur memory lol..there is no clan page to refer too...lol..ur looking at the bootcamp..remeber? we beat u and then u picked on our smaller members..funny how u seem to forget the small 'details'Don't bother spittin out false crap.. i know better! oh...since u have more 'loot' why do ur stats suck sooooo badly?it's not brain surgery to build up..heck i'm doing it...no, not with tkts...this games for babies..can't believe u don;'t get that.i have accounts on a few servers..i know how to play and really don't need advice from a whiner..yes..u are a whiner since u haven't stopped whinning since the begining iof this server.Going on about prem abuse lol..no affect...i have enough games and xp for ppl 'that matter' to know better...cry all u want :Pyes i know u play on other servers ...it's no surprise those accounts are crap as well lolyou need to face that ur not a very good player or sportsman.begin healing lol :PIf u have a life..go live it and stop wasting our time...!!delete the bogus account..then we will chat..otherwise..i have nothing to add!

MAIL-MessageSender: [Vip]CriminalRip
Date: 09.05.2009 04:01:55
Subject: k
Message: k i replyed to your post on your forum but it would not show the Verification so i'll Pm it to you. And after hopefuly we can talk and not argue cuz im just trying to play the game. Idc if you and ESF attack me daily or if you want to end it. But i want off your clan page and same with my clan name.

Reply to your forum post-
heh no surprise i you come out and talk shit when i don't talk shit. Now lets see. I don't think. Actually i KNOW your bootcamp did not beat RIP. Cause the war on the page against RIP is the one you still brag about on your page that we started with a "60 hit advantage" .Its your old ESF original clan. Now i told you why i have more loot and GG and u have better stats, premmies. Its that simple. And your right, the accounts on other servers do suck because i never bought premmie and heh thats what this game is all about. (Not the gold you get from it but you know the benefits). And i know the difference between "Whining" and complaining. Ya see because everything i said to you, you say the same thing about CDC for beating you. So wouldnt that make you a whiner to? Oh and if your wondering why i came back, i knew you would reply here and not pm me like i asked so you can tell your self your right.
Now im trying to end this but it seems you don't want to. You live off the drama or something i
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I never said the bootcamp beat u.
I'm pointing out the cowardly deeds you do after we beat u..like go to war with a bootcamp ,full of low lvl..inactive plyrs...my how brave of you hahaha.

yes when u and trd decided to go to war with esf, early in the server.u did start with a 60 point advantage...and we caugt up and beat u.. that's not a lie at all.
Sorry if the truth hurts u

in terms of ur other accounts.
Stop making excuses...
there are plenty of non prem players out there doing 100% better than u are..Pfftt

just be a man and admit u can't play that well..Geeshh!

it sounds so much worse when ppl 'whine' about the game/time or whatever...move on!

Your words are nothing to me..ur behaviour , however tells me a lot more.
You have constatly tried to have little digs at us.

Even when we stopped caring or fighting you, You put ur nose in2 the war with xLx/cdc, like u know something about it...and of course...because of your own bitterness..u start writting shit on ur page about us...Months later, as soon as u 'returnend'

As soon as i write down the truth in reply...u sulk all over again and beg me to quit the war i waged against u while i was solo, because of the above..

Who's kidding who here?

In addition, your last effort was abusing cro's bite link and writting anon here...then you want us to take you seriously?
Are you an idiot?

Like i said...nothing will be talked about until u remove that bogus account.
End of story!

heh no surprise i you come out and talk shit when i don't talk shit. Now lets see. I don't think. Actually i KNOW your bootcamp did not beat RIP. Cause the war on the page against RIP is the one you still brag about on your page that we started with a "60 hit advantage" .Its your old ESF original clan. And VIP killed it when i was active. Now CDC took my place in killin you
Now i told you why i have more loot and GG and u have better stats, premmies. Its that simple. And your right, the accounts on other servers do suck because i never bought premmie and heh thats what this game is all about. (Not the gold you get from it but you know the benefits). And i know the difference between "Whining" and complaining. Ya see because everything i said to you, you say the same thing about CDC for beating you. So wouldnt that make you a whiner to? Oh and if your wondering why i came back, i knew you would reply here and not pm me like i asked so you can tell your self your right.
Now im trying to end this but it seems you don't want to. You live off the drama or something i guess.

ok..i get it..ur dyslexic!i never said the bootcamp beat you...read carefully..start at the begining and pronounce each word carefully..in a few days u will get it..one hopes lol.Bored with the same old same old whinning...or 'complaining' as u put it.Facts are facts..and nothings gonna change that...don't equate urself with cdc..u'd be in the clan if u could play lolthe only thing u guys have in common is the whinning hahahahyou fool..what are u? a parasite?Premies..do not make u a good player/ fact/ even if u brought 100$ worth..in a few weeks you'd have a weak account again..u cannot play..otherwise..the account you have now,,which when it was given to you was really ahead in stats...would be awesome..BUT..is it? NO it's not worth a fart..why..cos u suck :Pi told you how to end this...u just can't read and i'm not in the mood to explain it...R.E.A.D!!

and more mail from the whiner...man, he reckons i like the drama?

i haven't closed the forum, i just don;t respond to u anymore ingame lol

Yea the verification code just doesnt show up when you get back on to reply. I agree with The Game 100% too. Your the only one that thinks all the bs on your page is true. Look at how much time you put in this game and not even in the top 100. Your clan should be shit but your lucky to have loyal members. Idk why they would stay after you re making the clan so many times. Someone in this topic said ESF only remade it self twice (Same person who decided to research our stats and what not). But if you only remade ESF twice then how the fuck did CDC use "hidding and surprise attacks" 4 times? You made a whole new section on your clan page so you wouldnt have to admit you got defeated. Your a pathetic old man. lol!

Hmmm ...this is what i'm constantly hearing from you..

WHAAA WHHAA WWAAA ...



STRYKER HURTED ME!

You go on and on and on about the same OLD things...
and what u seem to not understand is,
You're no one worth exppalining anything too.

yes at first i tried but i found i had little patience with mental defectives







if you need any verification now..scroll down to the bottom of our great clans page..

and look at the destruction we caused YET again to ur clan..but wait...oh, gee..



did u even bother attacking?..i've never seen this before..
>shock<
are my eyes decieving me?

.Us 24 hits..

U...'ZERO'!!??!!

*couldn't even win '1' with luck?

hahahahahahahahaHAhahahahahah